Fall Meeting Minutes
Posted:  10/13/08

VERMONT STATE WOMEN’S GOLF ASSOCIATION

Meeting:  Annual Executive Committee Meeting
Date/Time: October 7, 2008 / 9:00 a.m.
Place:  Green Mountain National
   

Attended by: Alburg Golf Links 1, Blush Hill CC 1, Brattleboro 2, Burlington CC 2, Cedar Knoll CC 4, Champlain CC 2, Crown Point 5, Dorset Field Club 3, Essex 1, Equinox 2, Green Mountain 2, Killington 1, Lake Morey 2, Lake St. Catherine 1, Montague 1, Mt. Anthony 1, Newport CC 2, Proctor-Pittsford 2, Quechee 2, Ralph Myhre 2, Rocky Ridge 2, Rutland 5, St. Johnsbury 4, Tater Hill 3, Vermont National 2, West Bolton 2, Williston 2

Recorded by:  Mary Corey

 President’s Report:  The President called the meeting to order, Sue Ginnett welcomed everyone and asked that the Board and Committee Chairs introduce themselves.  She thanked the Club Reps for a job well done. 

Secretary’s Report:  Mary Corey asked if the Club Reps had received and reviewed copies of the 2007 Annual Executive Committee Meeting Minutes.   They had reviewed their copies; there were no questions or amendments.  The Minutes were approved as written.

Treasurer’s Report:  Tracy Sloan reported she anticipates a surplus of $5,000 at year-end.  Due to financial cut backs the USGA will not renew the $10,000 Intern Position grant for 2009.  There is also a question as to the $3,000 Computer Grant being renewed, it is still pending.  The Treasurer’s Report was approved as stated.

The VGA has been approached by the Vermont State Department of Taxes for a Sales Tax audit.  The tax department is trying to make the VGA pay a 6% amusement tax on all tournament application fees. The VGA is fighting this claim; they are nonprofit and pay the clubs tax on golf, carts, and meals.  If the VGA loses, the Tax Department could go back six years.  This would set precedence for taxing the VSWGA.

Director of Administration’s Report:  Suzanne Neville did not have a report.  She has had a busy season, working with the First Tee Program, overseeing the Chelsea System, she and Joanna Taylor are responsible for doing all the behind the scenes work for the VSWGA Major Tournaments.

Suzanne thanked the Club Reps for their support throughout the year and stated she welcomed feedback and would be receptive to any suggestions.

 Jim Farrell - The New England USGA Representative was scheduled to speak but could not attend.

 Committee Chair Reports: 

A.  Web Administrator:  Cindy Paquet reported that overall things went rather well for 2008.   To be completely mobile Cindy needs a wireless Internet card.  Phyllis Simon stated it could be purchased for around $60 per month and the wireless card would give her Internet reception anywhere. 

Diane Peters, Seniors Tournament Chair, thanked Cindy for her help on the Seniors Tournament.  She never realized how much time and hard work Cindy really does on our major tournaments.  Diane wanted to make sure everyone was aware that Cindy writes all of the articles, prepares news clips, updates the website with tournament results and tee times and does this for every tournament.  Thank you Cindy!

B.  Course Rating: Carolyn Barbieri reported there were several new women who attended the Course Rating Seminar this year.  When they were contacted with a scheduled rating date only three or four people were available.  We need a minimum of six raters to complete a rating in a reasonable time frame.  This has been an ongoing problem, a suggestion was made, to schedule the rating dates in the spring and notify everyone so they can schedule their appointments around those dates.

Suggestions from the floor:  Irma Heeter recommended dividing the state into three sections, have team leaders for the North, Central and South, each being responsible for coordinating their own groups. Everyone seemed to agree this was a good idea. 

Kathy Sikora suggested that we combine our rating dates with the VGA.  This was a good idea but would not work, because courses are rated when they are open and too many officials would disrupt play.  

Kathy Allbright mentioned the courses might complain if we had large rating groups because they are responsible for making lunch accommodations for the group.  The fact that other states charge $50 to $250 for each rating while Vermont only asks for lunch should be mentioned if anyone complains.

Course Rating Chair:  Caroline Barbieri has agreed to continue as the Course Rating Chair provided the Board approves her report recommendations:  Have the VSWGA office schedule/coordinate the course ratings schedule, divide the state into 3 sections and identify team leaders as soon as the scheduled is firmed up.   

C.  Tournament Procedures:  Kathy Allbright said that Shari Pfannenstein had prepared a new proposal for the VSWGA Tournament Procedures Manual, which will be reviewed and discussed by the Board at its October 14, 2008 Meeting.   

D. Handicap:  Harriet Parot opened the floor for questions.  There were none.  She asked that Club Reps tell their business offices to please enclose a note when paying a different amount than billed.  If all nonmembers could be deleted from the GHIN System by the end of April or the first week in May it will avoid billing adjustments.

Licensing: Harriet wanted to make everyone aware the next three-year Licensing requirement will begin in January 2009.  Each club must have someone attend the Licensing Seminar or take the 45-minute online course.  The next seminar will be scheduled for the end of May in Rutland. 

E.  Juniors Program:  Mary Ann Levins did not attend.  The VSWGA raised enough money from our Closest to the Pin Contest to help meet the matching funds requirement for the Junior Grant.

F.  State Day and Points: Suzanne Neville reported, for the Scholarship Fund Raiser, we sold 11 flags for $150 each. 

State Day Stroke Play: When a golfer finds it impossible to negotiate a hole, they should write DQ on their scorecard, NOT No Card or Withdrew.  The difference is for DQ there is no penalty, while for No Card or Withdrew there is a penalty.  It would be a good idea for the scores table to always ask what happened to help determine the correct verbiage.

 

Skins:  State Day Skins is a way for golf clubs to raise additional funds.  The funds are paid as pro shop credit (chits). For 2009 Suzanne would like the VSWGA office to record all Skins.  A suggestion was make to post the Skins winners on the website.  After skins winners have been determined a list should be sent to the VSWGA office. The gift certificates should be sent to the participants’ home course or included with the winners list to the VSWGA home office.

Final State Day:  The divisions will continue (but this hasn’t happened for the last two years) to be broken down by putting the teams in the division with the lowest handicap of the two players.

Equal State Day Flights:  A committee was formed to evaluate the possibility of running State Day Tournaments based on the field divided equally into flights.  The committee consists of Rhonda Colvard as Committee Chair, Kathy Allbright, Jeanne Morrissey, Cindy Paquet, and Mary Corey.

G.  Rules:  Shari Pfannenstein apologized for having unforeseen circumstances that kept her from following through with spring meetings and training sessions for the new members of the Rules Committee.

Slow Play:  Shari thought our biggest single problem is slow play.  There is no way we can effectively combat this issue given our current structure that relies on volunteers.  She has written a new proposal to update our Tournament Procedures Manual that replaces most of the now volunteers with Board Members.   The Board will review this procedure.

Ready Golf:  To speed up play, Ready Golf was discussed.  Ready Golf should not be agreed upon at the first tee, it is against USGA Rules.  However, the USGA has become more flexible, so if you find your group is falling behind and it does not give anyone an advantage you can agree to play Ready Golf and still comply with USGA Rules.

Cell Phones:  Shari commented on the use of cell phones by participants for personal calls during play.  This should be strictly prohibited; cell phones should be turned off and only used for emergencies.   If this rule is breached, disqualification should be the result.

H.  Others:

 Seniors:  The Neshobe Golf Course has agreed to host the Seniors Tournament on July 22 - 23, 2009.  They have accepted our three-year rotation plan.

 

7.  Election of New Board Members:  The Slate recommended by the Board was:

Jeanne Morrissey from Williston

Ellen Sheffer from Neshobe

Judy Manley from Brattleboro

 

The Board selected Deb Warner from Champlain to complete Polly Gadbois’s term.

 

The floor was opened for nominations, there were none.  A Motion was made to accept the slate as recommended.  The Motion passed.

 

8.  Other Business:  

A. Stableford System:  At the Annual Executive Committee Meeting in 2007 it was decided to use the Stableford Format for a few State Days.  The trial courses were Woodstock CC, Tater Hill CC, Stratton Mountain, Killington and Vermont National.  Vermont National was rained out.  A total of 170 surveys were collected.

Survey results: 

1.  Was the scoring easy = 70% easy

2.  Improve the Pace of Play = 50% Yes - 50% No

3.  Liked or Disliked = 50% Yes - 50% No

4.  Fair to the field or unfair = the majority thought it was fair

5.  Would you play Stableford again = 70% Yes

 

Continue with the Stableford: With the host clubs consent, it was questioned if we should continue having the Stableford format on some of our more difficult courses.  The Majority voted in favor. 

 

Kathy Allbright will be open for suggestions from the members of how to refine the Stableford format until November 1, 2008. 

 B.  Closest To The Pin: In 2007 the VSWGA agreed for the 2008 season they would have Closest To The Pin contest for the entire field on both par 3’s.   The VSWGA actually collected more revenue this year.  It seems that most people liked the idea of having two chances to win.    Every Division had winners:  A-15, B-32, C-20, D-22 and E-5.

A motion was made to keep the Closest To The Pin Contest for the entire field on both par 3’s.  The Motion passed.

C.  Posting of scores: Last year at the Annual Executive Committee Meeting it was decided that individuals would post their own State Day Scores.   To avoid duplicate postings the Club Reps would not post scores through their TPP Program.  Using this method there is no way to verify scores are being posted.  A recommendation was made that the Club Rep should check the winner’s postings as one of their final duties for the year.  A motion was made to continue having individuals post their own scores.  Motion passed.

 

Harriet Parot wanted to make sure that all scores would be posted when participants are playing the Stableford format.  For scoring purposes ONLY on holes not completed the player should record their probable score.

 

9.  Board Topics for Discussion:

 

A.  Pace of Play Committee:  There is no quick resolution to Pace of Play; this topic will not be open for discussion.  Slow play comes from bad playing habits, everyone should read Shari Pfannenstein’s article on the VSWGA website titled “You Might be a Slow Player if.”  This article has many helpful hints and is very well written.   The Board thought a committee should be formed to research this problem.  Nancy Myers will be the Committee Chair; anyone interested in a position please contact her.

 

Turtle Flag:  The Board asks that the Committee look at the Turtle Flag option; this would mean anyone that completes their round with several holes open in front of them would be given a Turtle Flag.  Players with this flag would get one of the last tee times for the next State Day.

 

B.  Clubs without Reps:  The VSWGA Board members have been asked to cover State Days on courses without Reps. There are 7 clubs that fall into this category.  How should we address this issue?  Several recommendations were made:

 

1.  Ask clubs to pay fees for someone posing as their Club Rep.

2.  Deduct a predetermined amount from their State Day revenue.

3.  Charge the club’s State Day players double until someone agrees to be Club Rep.

4.  Do not allow the club members to play State Days.

5.  Lose the course from the State Day selection.

6.  Have the Board member, Director North, Central or South contact the club ladies and ask for a volunteer.

 

C.  Change in Major Tournament Chits:  An anonymous course would only accept the three year rotation tournaments if we changed our Major Tournament chits from VSWGA chits, to host club chits.   Comments were: 

 

1.  We should not be held hostage.

2.  Do not change the VSWGA’s policy to entice a course to join the rotation.

3.  Not all pro shops carry enough merchandise.

4.  Ask what the economic value of chits would be to the course and try to negotiate a deal.

 

A motion was made that we leave the chit situation for our Major Tournaments as is.  The Motion passed.

 

D.  Change in Annual Meeting Format:  The VSWGA Board, Committee Chairs and Voting Members meet once a year, when there is a time limit because of golf.  This does not work well for getting things accomplished.  Recommendations:

 

1.  Start the Meeting at 9:00 a.m. instead of 9:30 a.m.

2.  Play a 9-hole scramble instead of 18-holes.

3.   Do not have a designated time to start the scramble, wait until all issues have been resolved prior to play golf.

4.  Manage the meeting on a timeline.

5.  Have an e-mail meeting on any unresolved issues.

6.  Mail material early enabling voting members to send comments ahead of time to the board.

 

Resolution:  Have the meeting start at 9:00 a.m. try to keep the meeting on a timeline and continue with the 18-hole scramble at 12:30 p.m. or 1:00 p.m.

 

E.  Change in the By-Laws to recognize e-mail Board Meetings:  Mary Corey prepared a total revision of the By-Laws and Phyllis Simon edited:

 

1. Changing the revision date to 10/07/2008

2. Changing the corporate office address to 68 Walnut Court, Arlington, Vermont 05250 (802) 375-8091.

3. Changing Section 4.  Special Meetings: Adding, “there can be electronic (e-mail) meetings or physical meetings.”

4. Change Section 5. Notice:

Add, “requiring a physical presence”

Add, “electronic (e-mail)” 

Delete, “delivered personally or sent by mail, fax or telegram.”

Add, “e-mail”

Delete, “ If mailed, such notice shall be deemed to be delivered when deposited in the US mail in a sealed envelope so addressed, with postage thereon prepaid.  If notice is given by fax, such notice shall be deemed to be delivered once the fax has been successfully transmitted.  If notice is given by telegram, such notice shall be deemed to be delivered when the telegram is delivered to the telegraph company.”

5. Change Section 5. Powers and Duties:

Add, “update the Major Decisions, print and file all Board and Committee Chair e-mail correspondences, major tournament results and news letters.  The board’s paid position, Women’s Golf Association Director of Administration, will”

Add, “or other authorized individual”

 

Changes to the By-Laws, required a minimal 10-day notice.  Because this was not possible, the VSWGA decided to prepare a Waiver of Notice that was signed by the voting members. A motion was made to accept the corrections, additions and deletions to the By-Laws.   Motion passed.

10.  Rep concerns/issues/comments:  There were none.

11.  Announcements/Closing:  Sue Ginnett announced that Pat Job was leaving the Board; she did not run for a second term.  Pat held the position of Handicap Chair for many years and has been a valuable asset to the Board.  She always had a sensible answer and you could rely on her knowledge of the organization.  She will be missed!

Phyllis Simon announced that this was Sue Ginnett’s final year.  Sue has done a marvelous job as President; she initiated the e-mail Mini Meetings that have proven to be very efficient.  It enables Board members and Committee chairs to review documents when it’s convenient and they can think about the issues prior to responding.  With a Mini Meetings, Sue gets everyone’s input, there is no such excuse, as, I can’t make the meeting, plus the VSWGA has saved money on travel expenses.  Sue’s management skills are exceptional; she has a way of keeping the Board focused on the issues until they are resolved.  We will be happy to keep her on the Board as Past President.

Sue Ginnett announced that following adjournment there would be a quick Executive Board Meeting to elect new officers.

Meeting adjourned: 12:15 p.m.

Upon adjournment the VSWGA Executive Board met to vote on the 2009 slate of officers.  Members present were Sue Ginnett, Mary Corey, Tracy Sloan, Phyllis Simon, Nancy Myers, Sarah Lee, Deb Warner, Judy Manley and Jeanne Morrissey.

The Slate of Officers approved for 2008:

President - Tracy Sloan

Vice President - Phyllis Simon

Secretary - Mary Corey

Treasurer - Tracy Sloan

 

Executive Board Meeting adjourned: 12:25 p.m. 

Next Meeting: Lake Morey, October 14, 2008, 10:00 a.m.

Date Minutes Revised:  10/11/2008

 

 

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